Ultimatebet Admit Fraud!
http://www.ultimatebet.com/poker-news/2008/may/nionio-findings
Amazing development!
Check out the history here :- http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=99247
I withdrew all my money from UB not so long ago. Glad to see they have admitted responsibility and are taking care of this issue. I may well just redeposit now. I know they are refunding accounts because one of my friends was refunded 6500 yesterday!
Amazing development!
Check out the history here :- http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=99247
I withdrew all my money from UB not so long ago. Glad to see they have admitted responsibility and are taking care of this issue. I may well just redeposit now. I know they are refunding accounts because one of my friends was refunded 6500 yesterday!
posted by TillerMaN | 2:49 AM
4 Comments:
hey tillerman,
I am not surprised, it was pretty obvious this guy was a cheater. I wonder how many millions of dollars they have stolen.
Hi Tillerman
Are you due any refunds from the UB scandal or were you lucky enough to avoid him?
I don't get why the cheater got so greedy, surely he could actually lose some hands and play "normal" and still make more per week than most make in a year. Greed cost him in the end.
till - don't redeposit until they have named names and it is clear that those associated with the fraud are no longer linked to the company. After the same thing happened at Absolute it is incredible that they didnt immediately investigate UB and only did so after pressure from 2+2 players. The whole set-up is still shady - read the 2+2 threads in full.
What a bunch of Absolute Ultimate Criminals. From the 2+2 thread and history of how this has played out, it is obvious the cheaters were being facilitated by and having their tracks covered up by UltimateBet. It wasn't just ex-employees who had left a backdoor in the software, it was an ongoing scam.
Further, as a software engineer I can assure all of you the ability to see other players hole-cards is a feature that doesn't just get added onto their software by a 3rd party as Annie Duke has said. She actually said “When UltimateBet was first formed, there was a software company and a company that held the gaming license. Somebody associated with the company that owned the gaming license developed a piece of software that, if it were used, would allow you to see the hole cards of other players. As long as you had that piece of software, any account could access it [so in essence it wasn’t really a superuser account]. In March of 2006, the company was going public and it was going to be listed on the London Stock Exchange. The company that held the gaming license was bought out and disappeared. Then, the piece of software started to be exploited.”
Shes saying the company who wrote the software is innocent, and the company who owned the gaming license wrote their own piece of software which could get in and read everyones hole-cards! And then the crooked gaming license company was bought out and then they started to use their exploit against the innocent UB software writers and company. What rubbish.
Noone can just write a bit of software to read peoples hole cards at PokerStars or FullTilt. Or anywhere else, unless the poker-site is rotten to the core. This cheating backdoor was written right into the UB software, from the very beginning. And there is NO WAY it couldve been hidden from the software developers, unless they were paid to keep their eyes shut. Software and security people would have had to go out of their way in order to keep the cheating system working. So the software team was crooked, the security team was crooked, the management was crooked.
They should all be on their way to jail, and their site should be shut down now.
I can't believe Hellmuth hasnt dissociated himself from these turds.
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