Perfect Perfect
Two and a half years of poker nearly and this is the most amazing hand I have ever played especially since it happened in a good sized pot :-
I am playing $25/$50 No Limit and a player raises to $200 from UTG+1 at a full ring game. One player in middle position calls the $200 and I find myself on the button with A
A
. I call the $200 and raise $600 more, we all have $5000 stacks. The UTG+1 raiser instantly calls the $600 more, I put him on a range of 99-KK in my head. The middle position callers folds.
The pot is $1875 at this point.
The flop comes 57
5.
Sweet flop! My opponent now bets into me $1000 and I am now convinced he has something like KK, QQ, JJ and feel like I am going to win a full buy in from him. I reraise small, calling his $1000 and raising $1200 more. He instantly pushes all in and I call creating a $10,000 pot.
He turns over 55
and I am now instantly a 989-1 underdog on the flop? Omg, I was in shock when I saw his hand here.
The turn comes the A.
The river comes the A.
LOL! The whole table was in shock as was I, but I wasn't to upset for him to be honest =)
Less than five minutes later another amazing hand happens but versus a short stack so not quite as big an addrennaline rush :-
It is 6 handed $10/$20 No limit and I raise to $70 in middle position after the first 2 players fold with 55. The small blind calls the raise and the big blind folds leaving the pot heads up.
The pot is $160 at this point.
The flop comes 365.
The small blind checks and I bet $130. He check raises me for another $250 and I call. He turns over AA. Sweet!
The turn is the A.
The river is the 5.
This wins me a small pot of $920.
LOL! You couldn't script this stuff any better. I crack quad fives with aces and then five minutes later I crack aces with quad fives? Quite incredible!
I am playing $25/$50 No Limit and a player raises to $200 from UTG+1 at a full ring game. One player in middle position calls the $200 and I find myself on the button with A
A. I call the $200 and raise $600 more, we all have $5000 stacks. The UTG+1 raiser instantly calls the $600 more, I put him on a range of 99-KK in my head. The middle position callers folds.The pot is $1875 at this point.
The flop comes 5
75.Sweet flop! My opponent now bets into me $1000 and I am now convinced he has something like KK, QQ, JJ and feel like I am going to win a full buy in from him. I reraise small, calling his $1000 and raising $1200 more. He instantly pushes all in and I call creating a $10,000 pot.
He turns over 5
5 and I am now instantly a 989-1 underdog on the flop? Omg, I was in shock when I saw his hand here.The turn comes the A
.The river comes the A
.LOL! The whole table was in shock as was I, but I wasn't to upset for him to be honest =)
Less than five minutes later another amazing hand happens but versus a short stack so not quite as big an addrennaline rush :-
It is 6 handed $10/$20 No limit and I raise to $70 in middle position after the first 2 players fold with 5
5. The small blind calls the raise and the big blind folds leaving the pot heads up.The pot is $160 at this point.
The flop comes 3
65.The small blind checks and I bet $130. He check raises me for another $250 and I call. He turns over A
A. Sweet!The turn is the A
.The river is the 5
.This wins me a small pot of $920.
LOL! You couldn't script this stuff any better. I crack quad fives with aces and then five minutes later I crack aces with quad fives? Quite incredible!
posted by TillerMaN | 8:12 PM
12 Comments:
That is absolutely incredible! I'm actually chuckling out loud!
A small feat for mankind!
Keep up the good luck! Share the wealth!
Holy macaroni, Batman!
Bleeding heck tiller that is the beat from hell in the first one.
I'm curious to know what you make of your opponents play of his quads on the flop. He bet over half-pot down your throat with the stone-cold, surely to god (although apparently not!) uncrackable nuts!!
As I see it, that is the bet of a genius if he is VERY confident that you hold AA/KK as your resultant raise will likely ensure the rest of your stack has to follow. However, I would imagine (and I've never played you) on the button you'd re-raise AK, AKs and possibly AQs to take control of the pot with position on your opponent and to try and define his hole cards. That being the case betting over half-pot down your throat stands a real chance of scaring you off IMHO. If you held AKs on that flop I would imagine you'd opt not to get involved as he's priced you out of calling and to make a meaningful bluff re-raise would result in at least half your starting stack ending up in the pot and quite possibly not resulting in a showdown.
Therefore, I have to question why on earth this guy bet rather than let you put in a continuation bet or catch something of the board to hang your whole stack.
On the basis of this I'm inclined to think he was very sure you had AA or KK and you should note that your re-rasing pattern in that regard makes a believer of him.
Interested to hear your thoughts on this.
Cracking beat though :D
Kenny
He made a technical error here. The leading into the raiser or reraiser is common with sets and the nuts at higher limits in certain situtations. But in this case it was wrong and he should have check raised realizing I am not going to be able to get away from AA-KK on this flop anyway.
Agree, I'd have led into you with trips and probably even the vulnerable full house combos on that flop but leading with quad 5s certainly raised my eyebrow and he'd kick himself if you packed AK or a hand like 1010/JJ.
Kenny
I have to agree with Kenny here. Your opponent made a great move playing the nut how it's not supposed to be played knowing he'll get paid off, but on the flip side you were certain you were ahead, so neither play was wrong. It's just poker. Congratulations on the win though!
Erm, nope you're all wrong, he didn't make any error at all in fact...
He actually had AA precognition and was trying to get you to fold, you lucky git you!
;-)
(Raise with AQs, are you maaaaad sir?!)
I did say 'maybe' AQs ;o)
AQs is a powerful hand if you feel you opponent will open with the likes of A10-AK and middling pairs in that position (which he did!). I'd be more inclined to raise with it to define the strength of my hand preflop than to take an ace on the flop and be shown AK come showndown. There are no absolutes in poker - I simply pointed out that tillermans opponents bet was only getting action from a hand considerably stronger than AK on that flop.
Kenny
"I reraise small, calling his $1000 and raising $1200 more."
ARRRGGHHH it's only a RAISE tiller...major pet peeve. You talk like a poker noob. :)
Hi Kenny,
Sorry mate I was just being silly, not really trying to criticise you at all!
Seeing as you are a sensible chap I'd welcome any comments on the following scenario:
Full 10 seater NL table. We receive a raising hand but not a premium pair, we accordingly raise and are first in the pot. One caller who has position on us.
Flop misses us, but we bet 1/2 a pot. There are no likely straights and the flop is a rainbow. The caller then doubles our continuation bet, yikes!
My play here (without much info on the opponent) is to reraise (sorry if that's the wrong term) 3x his bet...
What's your take?
Cheers,
Matt.
Matt,
You've not specified what level of poker this is but as my experience - sadly - is limited to the lower levels I will assess it on that basis.
We have a raising hand, were first in the pot and have missed. The board has brought nothing obvious to help us and a series of raggy cr@p. With our AQ (for example) we have bet half pot and been 'staned' as I like to call it (standard raised).
At this point I'm getting out of dodge. we had a legitimate attack on the blinds but found ourselves out of position come the flop. We then put in a reasonable bet to try and take it but our opponent has played back. Assuming we raised 4bb preflop and then bet 5bb on the flop we have now invested 10% of our starting stack. I'm happy to walk away at that. With the stan the pot is now around 25bb. To properly get a feel for our opponents strength we need to raise his 5bb + 45bb taking our total investment to 50-60% of our stack with ace high on a rag board and out of position. It's just too dangerous without a clear read.
If we consider the hands he'd maybe do that with. On this board he has nothing or everything IMHO. We are drawing dead to a set which is the exact sort of hand he'd raise in this manner. We also might be behind to a better premium hand that hasn't been helped either in which case we can perhaps remove him from it but its risky.
I personally would have bet more on the flop though. I try to ensure that if I raise preflop and find myself heads up that I bet pot at the flop absolutely regardless of what it comes. I bet monsters (sets, flushes, houses, the lot!) for pot straight down my opponents throat to maintain that image at the table. If they want to put a play on me they have to know that from time to time they will do it when I have the stone-cold nuts.
I think our half-pot bet gave him a chance to use his position to engage us in a difficult decison and he may well be putting a play on us. Fair game in that case.
On the balance of things I fold - I'm no expert though. I've never been able to work through the limits at NL like Tillerman, Mafews, et al. Perhaps I'm too weak?
Kenny
Thanks Kenny,
It's always interesting to get another player's opinion. I am a cautious (/tight) player by nature so my 3x reraise is certainly not in charactor - I usually give opponents credit for a good hand if they bet or raise.
If I'm wrong well then having bluffed me sucessfully in the past, I'd expect them to bluff later when I have the coconuts :-)
On the sort of flop I described, with a set I'd personally tend to call and let my opponent catch up a little, which it why their standard raise looks a tad suspicious to me, unless of course they have two pair (3.5% of the time).
At the mid-stakes level that I play I tried this new (to me) reraising tactic, and it works surprisingly frequently 90% or so so far. If you get called or worse you know your hand is definately worthless!
Thanks again and good luck!
Matt.
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