New US plan to ban internet bets
New US plan to ban internet bets
Online gambling definitely illegal in the US
So what do US readers think of this? Worried? =)
Online gambling definitely illegal in the US
So what do US readers think of this? Worried? =)
posted by TillerMaN | 4:12 PM
15 Comments:
Everyone else should be worried too - it's where a good 80-90% of the players and hence the money comes from....
Damn that country is screwed up. There goes the bulk of online profit if this one passes.
/Proudly Canadian
i would be more worried if i ran a gambling website.
there's no way they're shutting down a multi-billion dollar industry
I think this sucks, as a US citizen this would effect me, but I'm not really worried. First of all, there are many laws here that are never enforced, or are impossible to enforce. Obveously drug prohibition has done nothing to slow the availability of drugs in this country (it only makes them available to children, because drug dealers don't check for I.D.) And unless they find a way to physically prevent US terminals from accessing gambling sites, then I don't think any players in the states have much to worry about.
I wouldn't worry too much about gambling sites, in the legal sense, because I don't think any of them operate in the states to begin with, because it is definatly illegal to run a gambling web site in the states, in fact, it already is and has been illegal to gamble online in the states. The sites that have business partners in the U.S. tend to actually be two different companies working together, take for instance Full Tilt, their U.S. based portion of the company is Tiltware, they provide the software and I imagine servers and support, while the cash is handled by a bank in some place like Gibralter. None of the online poker sites use banks in the United States, because it is illegal already. So they get around it by hosting all that business offshore.
As a poker player, and as a reasonable human being, I am crushed at how people in this country can vote into power people who are so absolutely stupid as to think that this is a good idea and a great way to spend tax dollars. Personally this wont effect me much, I live in Northern California, where there are dozens of local cardrooms to choose from, and I always tend to play live action when I choose to play for any serious amount of money.
You know, they could have put out a bill that compleatly legalizes internet gambling and taxes is, which I'm sure would generate tons of money for something like starving kids, but apparently our government isn't too opposed to such things. =(
"die twin tower fat hamburger"
Probably a stupid question so I apologize but are they referring to casino-esque websites or does that include poker websites too?
Will US citizens not be able to play on a poker site that is hosted outside of the US?
I suppose the main question is that all those online pros that live in the US...will they, technically, have to move abroad if they want to continue their career i.e. in the strictest sense of it all?
eh, gambling online is illegal in australia too, but you dont see us not gambling.
There's a ton of money flowing out of the US. I don't think it's a stretch to say that most of the online poker players are US residents. With that said, as the online Poker Rooms tend to be based outside the US, the rake that Americans are paying when they play is flowing right out of their country. So US is losing billions of dollars over this. Also, there's the largest percentage of recreational players in US, comparing it to other countries, I'm sure, so the plaeyrs are just LOSING US capital to players from other countries also.
I'm pretty sure that this is the #1 reason for shutting down internet gambling. Solution: Government operated onling gambling sites, where the rake goes towards the country's budget.
Would that be smart?
A good question though: How do US residents who make their living off online poker/other gambling explain their income?
Online gambling is already illegal here in the US. If the government legalized it they could tax winnings and make a fortune. Oh well, until then my cashouts will have to remain tax free :)
Online gambling is already illegal here in the US. If the government legalized it they could tax winnings and make a fortune. Oh well, until then my cashouts will have to remain tax free :)
RTFA - it says it will be illegal for for a gambling BUSINESS, not for gamblers.
Since all the businesses are not under US jurisdiction - what does it matter?
Nothing new here...
YOU GUYS ARE ALL NOOBS
If you were true poker players in the US, you'd know that Billy Baxtor (the dood who spotted stu ungar in 97) fought this many years back.
Poker is a game of skill not gambling. These articles are talking about sites like bodog that offer "gambling" games such as bj roulette lottery etc....
If poker was not a game of skill, and a game of luck - hence gambling,
then the tournament winners in US would get tax on tournaments as much as they would if they won the lottery.
you noobs...
Poker Players Alliance just emailed me about this so I really doubt that it only applies to games of luck.
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